{"id":15203,"date":"2024-07-26T08:30:43","date_gmt":"2024-07-26T12:30:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eptura.wpengine.com\/?p=15203"},"modified":"2025-02-19T10:47:27","modified_gmt":"2025-02-19T15:47:27","slug":"just-start-doing-it-recap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eptura.com\/discover-more\/blog\/just-start-doing-it-recap\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cJust start doing it\u201d \u2013 Streamlining organizational outcomes using AEC data, BIM, and digital twins with Kimon Onuma, Cyril Verley, and Michael Bordenaro"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">In episode 133 of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/eptura.com\/discover-more\/podcasts\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Asset Champion<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">, host <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mikepetrusky\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Mike Petrusky<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\"> speaks with Kimon Onuma, President of ONUMA, Inc., Cyril Verley, President and CEO of CDV Systems, Inc., and Michael Bordenaro,\u00a0 Executive Director of the Asset Leadership Network. They cover the value of digital twin technology and building information management (BIM) within the context of facility management. The panel also looks at how the success of digital tools is dependent on organizational culture and governance and why leaders need to foster a culture of continuous improvement.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span data-contrast=\"none\">Agenda<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:true,&quot;134233118&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"1\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Future of the asset management industry<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"1\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Importance of data and roles of BIM and digital twins<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"1\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Insights and advice for practitioners and owners<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">What you need to know: Facility and maintenance takeaways<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;134245418&quot;:true,&quot;134245529&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:40,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p aria-level=\"2\"><span data-contrast=\"none\"><strong>Takeaway 1:<\/strong> Data o<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">wnership is essential and it\u2019s crucial to start utilizing existing information to create value<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;134245418&quot;:true,&quot;134245529&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:40,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Every organization has data it can use, even if that data\u2019s not yet in the right format.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u201cPractitioners or owners should think in terms of the information and the data that they already have and how they can flip it around and make it valuable,&#8221; stresses Onuma. They need to start utilizing data, even in its imperfect state, and gradually move toward a digital twin.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Verlay aggress and then explains how no matter what application an organization is using, it&#8217;s their data and it&#8217;s within their environment. He then notes the importance of having an open architecture where a variety of platforms can communicate with the same data structure. &#8220;Owners should have a perspective of their own data. So, no matter what application they&#8217;re using, it&#8217;s their data, it&#8217;s within their environment, they own it.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">The panel recommends the ISO 55000 asset management standard as a governance tool that can help every organization with any type of assets \u201cnot just the buildings, the things in them, the things that come to them, the water that comes in, the electricity that comes in, the waste that goes out can all be managed better.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\"><strong>Takeaway 2:<\/strong> Digital twins and BIM provide a framework for streamlining organizational outcomes<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Digital twin technology is a foundation, but it&#8217;s not the starting point. First, companies need to identify the use case.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">&#8220;The primary driver should be \u2018What is the use case?\u2019 From a facility perspective, what are you trying to achieve?&#8221; explains Onuma.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Digital twins act as maps, adds Verlay, and the best people to create maps are the architects, engineers, and contractors. &#8220;It seems to me that the key of managing a facility from an owner&#8217;s perspective is a map. I mean, if they can have access to a map of some kind and locate a room, locate an asset and locate whatever that, whatever information is on, you know, on their iPad or their iPhone using a handheld device with a map, I think that&#8217;s really the center of what a digital twin should be.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\"><strong>Takeaway 3:<\/strong> Asset management is a continuous process of improvement that requires collaboration and transparent data sharing<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:240,&quot;335559739&quot;:240,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">There\u2019s always the human factor that needs to be understood and overcome when implementing change.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0&#8220;Leaders need to set up a culture of continual improvement because these tools are coming at us rapid fire. And there needs to be a way to quickly take advantage to streamline those organizational outcomes,&#8221; shares Bardonaro.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Onuma adds: &#8220;Transparency of information breeds self-correcting behavior. If you can see the information, it starts correcting itself. And over the life cycle, the information about our facilities and assets is more valuable than the physical facility itself.&#8221;<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 aria-level=\"2\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Asset management insights<\/span><span data-contrast=\"none\">\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;134245418&quot;:true,&quot;134245529&quot;:true,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:40,&quot;335559739&quot;:0,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Even if data is in the wrong format, owners can still derive value from it by slowly moving it towards a digital twin future version.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Owners should retain control over their data, regardless of the application they are using.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">There is a need for a culture of continuous improvement as new tools and technologies continue to emerge.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li data-leveltext=\"\uf0b7\" data-font=\"Symbol\" data-listid=\"2\" data-list-defn-props=\"{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;\uf0b7&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}\" aria-setsize=\"-1\" data-aria-posinset=\"1\" data-aria-level=\"1\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Technology is a crucial foundation but should not be the starting point. The primary driver should be the use case and the value that can be created from the data.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"none\">Listen to the full podcast <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/eptura.com\/discover-more\/podcast\/asset-champion\/streamlining-organizational-outcomes-using-aec-data-and-more\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">here<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"none\">.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">Go deeper. Dive into more episodes of Eptura\u2019s <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/eptura.com\/discover-more\/podcasts\/\"><i><span data-contrast=\"none\">Asset Champion<\/span><\/i><\/a><i><span data-contrast=\"none\"> podcasts.<\/span><\/i><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In episode 133 of Asset Champion, host Mike Petrusky speaks with Kimon Onuma, President of ONUMA, Inc., Cyril Verley, President and CEO of CDV Systems, Inc., and Michael Bordenaro,\u00a0 Executive Director of the Asset Leadership 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